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Post by caddisguy on Feb 28, 2004 19:53:00 GMT -6
With all the post s on information for the Pine I thought I would start a new thread. I have Fished the Pine from all the bridges up stream and down stream West of the #10 and east down stream about 2 miles. The best sections or the ones with the most success for me have been The section that runs through Snows property on the north side of the road. This section is on the West side of #10 and can be fished from the first bridge going down stream. The section's I have fished on the east side of #10 are which for the most part guite over grown and difficult to access but there are usually some good beaver ponds to fish here. I have not run into any signifigant hatches while on the Pine and have had most succes with fishing streamers. The fish seem to reproduce in here as I have seen some very small fingerlings in the river and a wide range of year classes. The upper reaches depend so much on water flow that it can be hard to find the fish. In the lower reaches theres more undercut banks and Beaver ponds .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2004 10:34:07 GMT -6
I'd love to hear about people's experiences on the Pine!
For myself, I'm in agreement with John as to the most productive area, although to be fair since the road closed that's the area I hit the most often as well. I remember back in the early 80s going pretty far upstream with a chap who has a cottage at Wellman and we did quite well - but it was very closed in.
Latey I have only accessed the river via #10
Cane - how far does the road from Beaver go in before its gated?
As for hatches, I do know that there are large stoneflies and I often do best with a weighed dk brown or black Kaufmann stonefly nymph. About three summers ago I had an amazing day on dries - Elk Hair Caddis and small Stimulators - more than a dozen in a couple of hours and they were everywhere - in the riffles, pools, undercuts...
John you are correct they do reproduce - not sure if the Bows do, but I know that there was a study a few years back sponsored by Man Conservation that did confirm Brook Trout reproduction - and way, way up past the last bridge.
Lastly - for waterever reason I always seem to do better in July/August than in the fall (October). Could it be that the trout migrate within the river system to winter holding areas?
and.......who has been up to the Steeprock recently? What's the story there?
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Post by cane on Feb 29, 2004 11:32:25 GMT -6
Bill- there is a gate approx 2 kms in travelling west on the Beaver Lake rd PR271 though i,ve never seen it closed.
The section downstream of the Graveyard Bridge is a descent one I agree- although now (last fall) you could only get down approx 1/4 mile as there is a big beaver pond after the long drop.
There is another access to the south side that gets you approx 1 mile upstream from the Graveyard Bridge through the old gravel pit accessed off the PR 271 just before the Graveyard Bridge. There is also a bushwhack access( an old logging access I think) approx 1 1/2 - 2miles up the PR 271 that gets you in but its a fun walk:)))
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Post by caddisguy on Feb 29, 2004 11:52:09 GMT -6
Kim do you know why the Pine River road was closed? I'll give you my versaion after I hear yours. There probably a little different.
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Post by cane on Feb 29, 2004 12:32:24 GMT -6
I fish the Pine the way it presents itself- lol aint that helpfull!!! in the spring ( early May to early June) I head to the areas that will get the most early sun( upstream of the Hwy 10 bridge or the Trestle bridge or downstream of the Twin Bridges) - going after warmer water temps and therefore the chance of more active nymph/active fish . Summer ( June /July/August) i head mainly between the Graveyard and the Twin Bridges. John is right that the hatches are pretty light in the mornings and early afternoons- but the late evening and dusk hatches can be very heavy, small /medium caddis and mayflies with heavy spinner falls. so that time of year I fish hard from sun up to mid -day ( nymphs/emergers/wet hackles/winged wets/ etc) then stonefly/caddis larvae and darners etc mid to late day- have a long supper:)) and wait for the late evening stuff to start. Unless there are obvious rising fish or a hatch going on I rarely fish dries unless sometimes a Foam Beetle a Winged Ant or Hopper or Cricket on a hot windy day hoping to raise a fish in the farmland sections.The Fall( mid-October)- they do migrate and can be hard to find- they will pod up and move . so it seems to be a case at least for me of finding them once I find fish i'll nymph/soft hackle fish them you can see the pods so it can be fun:)) All of the above holds for me in normal water levels-lol- aint that helpfull again- when its high/dirty I like the slacks of the big pools anywhere i can find quiet water and when its low/clear I like the pocket water and heavy pool necks. I think if you blast along from obvious pool to obvious pool anytime of the year you'll pass a lot of fish:)). The pocket water holds a lot of fish at all times(high sticking weighted nymphs- Caddis larvae/stoneflies/modified zug bugs), even the most unlikely spots, the tails of pools can be very productive( Snipe and Purple/Soft hackles/small Pheasant Tail nymphs/ Light Olive nymphs/small dark Stonefly nymphs) but you'll kill them if you wade in to get at the juicy looking spot of the pool, you have to poke a fly in everything and take your time to make sure you,ve covered all the spots that could even remotely possibly hold a fish . Hope all that makes sense- I guess what works there for me is not go with a single plan in mind( going to fish Humpy,s ) but switch tactics to match the time of day and conditions and water type being fished. Hope that helps:)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2004 18:08:04 GMT -6
John,
The COs in Swan told me that the road was in need of a serious grading and that there just wasn't the ~$100,000 in the budget to do it. Also there was a lot of illegal roadside shooting going on.
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Post by caddisguy on Feb 29, 2004 20:33:07 GMT -6
;DGood to hear the finer points of fishing small streams from cane. This is all dodgy stuff for most of us Manitobans as we tend to stick to the larger tributaries of Hudson Bay ie. the Red, and Assiniboine and Winnipeg River systems. I have not spent enough time on the Pine or the Steeprock to really consider myself a good stream fisherman but there is still time to learn isn't there. I would certianly like get more time on the Pine and also fish the North Duck which I have yet to try. ))
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Post by caddisguy on Feb 29, 2004 20:52:30 GMT -6
The cost of road up keep I think is not the issue as there are as many people if not more using the park than ever and it took away the most scenic drive in the whole Duck Mountian area. I think they wanted to get rid of the traffic between camperville and a reserve on the Saskatchewan side of the park. It has cut down on some of the poaching along the roadside but the poaching in the park is still going on. We used to see animal remains beside the road in the park which I haven't noticed in recent years. I wish the road was still maintained because it cuts a lot of time of the trip to Wellman as far as the poaching goes the anwers is more CO's not less. The only time I've seen them around is during hunting season. Access with 4 wheelers is still there so I think the poaching on the old toad (that's for Kim) is still thriving because now the CO's won't even patrol that part of the park.
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Post by fishinmusican on Mar 1, 2004 12:10:36 GMT -6
Well John the story I got from the locals in PineRIver was that they didn't want to spend the money on the up keep of the road plus they wanted to direct the traffic to 367 and the other trunk highways.I believe some of the framers from around PineRiver were going in and grading it on there own.Haven't fished the Pine alot in the last couple of years(was trying to hone my lake skills) but I have fished from the graveyard bridge all the way past the twin bridges but my favorite spots are on the east side of #10,there are some nice spots along that stretch of the river,plus some good beaver ponds,depending on the farmers. It is tough going on that stretch and its hard to access due to land rights. I can't say for sure but I do believe that the bows are self producing, I have caught different year classes.......KIm
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Post by fishinmusican on Mar 5, 2004 10:31:37 GMT -6
A little story about the Pine. A couple of years back I was fishing the Pine above the road into the gravel pitt.It was the afternoon and the day was hotter than what we get for that time of year. So I decided too take a break,sit down,drink some water,have a snack and commune with Mother Nature,yep thats right was fishless for the day.So here I am stuffing my face,drinking my water and thanking the creator for his creation when I look down stream and I spy with my two little eyes two trout swimming up stream as if they were out for a sunday stroll.Not knowing what to do I just sat there watching and much to my surprize and shock these two fish swam right by me not even worried about me.So who says fishing is for catching fish this day it was about watching two fish on there way to some where else.......Kim
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Post by Robert Burton on Mar 5, 2004 10:41:55 GMT -6
So I decided too take a break,sit down,drink some water, have a snack and commune with Mother Nature, yep thats right was fishless for the day. Good for a laugh on a snowy day thanks rb
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Post by fishinmusican on Mar 5, 2004 17:11:56 GMT -6
Any time RB.Life is way too short to not laugh at what life sends our way......Kim
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